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VIDEO: Rioting Halloween mob wreaks havoc in northeast
The crowd was so massive and rowdy that at one point in the evening – just after 1 a.m., emergency services could not get into the area to respond to a report of a man needing medical assistance after he fell and hit his head, knocking himself unconscious. Const. Kevin Lui, with London police, said officers had to escort paramedics into the area and the injured man received the medical attention required. "There were no other injuries reported as a result of the disturbance," Lui said. Police said the incident began just before 12:30 a.m., when a call came in from a concerned citizen regarding a large student party in the area of 280 Thurman Circle. VIDEO: London Police video of rioting mob on Thurman Cirlce, London Ont., Oct. 31 Police then received additional calls reporting a crowd of more then 300 people "partying in the street, turning over vehicles, breaking windows of residences, causing property damage, climbing on wooden fences, and swarming vehicle as they attempted to drive down the street," police said. When officers arrived they encountered "a large tumultuous crowd of approximately 500 people who began to chant anti-police slogans and throw beer bottles," police said. While waiting for additional units to arrive the crowd continued its "tumultuous behaviour slowly advancing towards the police and continually throwing beer bottles, glass plates and various debris at the officers," police said. Lui said the Emergency Response Section as well as all plain clothed officers were dispatched to the scene to lend assistance to the original police responders. "As a result of the overwhelming risk to public and emergency personnel's safety within the entire neighbourhood, the crowd was deemed to be an Unlawful Assembly and overt crowd control/dispersement measure were employed by police." Lui said 22 people were arrested for being participants of an Unlawful Assembly, one male suspect, who officers on scene were able to positively identify as throwing beer bottles, was arrested and charged with assault police. London police had in place an operational plan and had deployed additional officers in anticipation of addressing issues associated with the Halloween weekend. "However, in light of the extreme level of disorderly and unlawful conduct displayed in the Thurman Circle neighbourhood, an even greater police deployment will occur this evening (Oct. 31) throughout the city and specifically in the Thurman Circle neighbourhood," police said, adding "public disorder and unlawful acts will not be tolerated and will be met with a strong police response and strict enforcement." |
| Another great hallowween tale. Should have mentioned there were zombies involved. |
| By: ICE COLD on 10/31/2009 |
| I live on Thurman and love when people over talk. The were not 500 people on the street more like 250. I watched as this event took place from my home, as my family tried to sleep. No cars were flipped on the circle, yes anti-police slags were being said, and beer bottles were being thrown. But I have lived on Thurman for over 3 years and every year this type of thing happens and every year the police take things to the extreme. Lots of swearing from both sides I heard this Oct 31 night from both the students and the police. |
| By: Resident of Thurman on 10/31/2009 |
| I am a student in this neighborhood. There is something wrong with the cops in London. They will not show a shred of respect for anybody that is on public property in this neighborhood, and it is honestly getting very pathetic. Even a friendly "hello officer, how is your day going" was replied with a " Where are you going, you better be on your way home" barked back at me. Better go home or else what? If students were treated this way anywhere else, something would have been said about it. The cops "can't talk" about the measures they took last night, and we don't see details about the assault on the students or the tear gas used in the entire neighborhood!! I have seen cops beating up students who simply talked back, and they get away with it because they say the student was being uncooperative. TAXPAYERS are also paying the bills for those broken noses and jaws!!!!!!! I am scared in my own neighborhood because of the POLICE. How many stories have we heard of London police using excessive force and getting away with it? Broken noses, broken jaws, black eyes, to say the least. These cops should be trained to use whatever force is NECESSARY....since when has it been a necessary act to beat somebody with a night stick because they are talking to you with an attitude. I think an easy pair of handcuffs should do the trick. Since when has somebody having an attitude and talking back mean that they deserve to get the SH*T kicked out of them. I am not excusing the ridiculous behaviour of the Fanshawe students, but maybe this treatment over the years has sparked the attitude between the police and the students, which was clearly voiced to everyone last night!!!! |
| By: Scared of my police on 11/01/2009 |
| Flipped cars? 500 people? Yeah, I'd say thats an exaggeration to say the least. I have to say that I was at the party that sparked everything but as it started getting out of control, I was on the street, waiting for my friends to come out so we could go back home. People were chanting but no cars were being flipped whatsoever and no bottles were being thrown until the police showed up. I respect the police and the job they are required to do, but c'mon? Arresting people for walking out with their hands clearly in the air, stating that they just wanted to go home.. thats a little ridiculous. Either arrest the people causing the disturbance or don't arrest anyone at all. The AWFUL article written in the LFP cites that Fanshawe students have cost taxpayers money, but how about the fact that these policeman were being paid to book innocent students who were just trying to go home. ONE person was actually identified as throwing the beer bottle, what the hell did these others do? I agree that Thurman/Fleming gets out of control, but I also believe that the tactics used to combat this disturbance were ineffective and ultimately resulted in unlucky students being penalized for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and now being faced with court dates and probation. |
| By: Exaggeration much? on 11/01/2009 |
| Has no one noticed the new slogans showing up on the police cruisers? It can be seen on the front quarter panels of their cars (left and right sides): "Deeds not words" I have been wanting to stop an officer to ask what this is supposed to mean but I am afraid they will use deeds and not words to explain it. The above post explains it pretty well I guess. |
| By: BT on 11/01/2009 |
| Those immature children should be charged and if guilty be given hefty fines and locked up for a few days. When police who would normally be patrolling in other areas of the city have to go to that neighborhood it leaves other areas of the city vulnerable and a tragedy could occur. As are many London residents I'm fed up to the eye teeth with these goings on every year. |
| By: richard kidd on 11/01/2009 |
| Scared.. unfortunately (or fortunately for the rest of us) there are laws in place to protect residents and property from this type of behaviour. Coming to school in London does not give you a license to have massive parties, walk around London drunk, destroy private property... OR throw beer bottles at police officers when they are trying to break up parties. As a resident of this city I appologize if our rules seem lame to you, but they are here for good reason. Having gone to Fanshawe myself and participated in my share of parties I understand why the police immediately ask you to go home. They are not only looking out for the safety of the areas residents, but also the students they are sending home. You say that there is something wrong with the cops in this city because they have no shread of respect for the students?? I ask you, where is your respect for the city and its residents when there are hundreds of students in the streets intoxicated causing problems? |
| By: Jeff on 11/01/2009 |
| An easy fix, if you are a student at Fanshawe College and you are at this type of gathering and you are arrested, you are OUT of school, expelled, finished, lost your year. Perhaps this would bring things back to some kind of order. I think the College has a community responsibility to do the right thing. Doing nothing obviously does not work. |
| By: MG on 11/01/2009 |
| I agree with MG. This behaviour is contrary to the student code of conduct and while you are a student you must abide by the law on and off school property. These students are undermining the reputation of the college/university and as a alum of Fanshawe I see the worth of my diploma evaporating each time a story like this is run. |
| By: Smyth on 11/01/2009 |
| The police are indeed the ones you need to worry about. A friend was sitting on her front porch having a smoke and three male police officers arrested her and took her away with extremely excessive force. She posed no threat and now has bruises the police force is going to have to explain. Good job LP! |
| By: KW on 11/01/2009 |
| I wish I was there to be apart of it all, that sounds like a good time. If the cops wouldn't bust up the parties than we would all be inside. |
| By: SD on 11/01/2009 |
| Amazing. This is the time of shit that students live for. Parties are great, but when tear gas and the cops get involved what more can you ask for? If you know goes on every year and it not changin, then I think its time for you to move if you dont like the area you live in. This is halloween for goodness sake, let the students let loose and dress up for the night, if that too much to ask then you've got to realize your the selfish people in this situation and next time the party should be moved to your front lawn. |
| By: Party Love on 11/01/2009 |
| To the person who said that students should be expelled from school if they are arrested at a party: You are an idiot. Expulsion for partying? Seriously? First of all, you're innocent until proven guilty. I think, as many have stated before, the police already assume you're guilty of something in these neighbourhoods and treat everyone who lives there as a criminal, regardless of what actually happened. Secondly, if a student is expelled, do you think that means that he moves back home? Do you think that means he just says "Oh, I guess I should stop partying and get a job"? If a student is expelled, they would have more time to do this kind of behaviour and it would only slow down their path to maturity. As a student who lives in the area, I've seen what is happening from both sides and I give some police credit for how they handle situations. My house was given four noise violation tickets over the course of the summer, none of which were caused by mass amounts of people causing trouble, rather it was a few friends talking on the back deck or listening to music. Two of the officers who gave us the tickets ended up becoming very friendly with my household and would stop by and talk to us as they made their rounds. These two officers were strict, but respectful. These two officers made a difference, not the ones who are trying to force students into submission with physical and verbal assault. I wrote the mayor an e-mail expressing my frustrations not only with the police, but also with some of the students in my neighbourhood. I asked her for a meeting to discuss ways to curb the violent tendancies of the neighbourhood and she appeared to be very open to the idea. The e-mail I originally sent was forwarded to Brad Duncan, the Deputy Chief of Police, and he responded with an insulting e-mail and gave my house a "Chronic Address Warning". He refused to meet with me because my house had noise violations and because our recorded series of events didn't match up to each others. My question is, why would he not want to meet with a student who is reaching out to help the community? Even more so, why would he not want to reach out to someone who he deems to be troublesome? You would think that he would want to make an effort in advancing the relationships between students and the police, but he didn't. That just goes to show that the disrespect they show the students starts at the top. --- With that said, the behaviour of the students was irrational and unnecessary. Those throwing things at the police are a hazard to everyone in the area and should be arrested. Students need to realize that these neighbourhoods are constantly being monitored by police and they need to respect them, even if it means that they need to be the first ones to make the effort. Students also need to realize that the media is working with the police and not them. Doing an interview is not making you or your school/neighbourhood look better. No matter what you happen to say, it will be twisted to make their point, not yours. From what I've seen in various pictures and videos, as well as various statements I've heard from people involved, there were less than 300 students and no cars were flipped. It's obvious that police and the media exaggerated the numbers, but I'll wait to pass judgement on the flipped car claim. -- Overall, both the LPS and the students are in the wrong. Something does need to be done, but it will be fun to see who is more proactive to make the change. |
| By: TA on 11/01/2009 |
| Wow!!! and they want to bring one of these institutes of higher?? learning to our town. Yes i watched the video and all seemed quiet, except if you lived in the area and were trying to sleep. What i do not understand is why this keeps happening? As usual both parties look to blame the other. After all it is really hard to kick yourself in the ass. It is amusing though to see what is happening to hard earned dollars spent to give these students a hope for a brighter future. Lots of love to both sides. |
| By: R.H. on 11/01/2009 |
| TO CLARIFY: i was there from beginning to end of this 'Altercation' and absolutely ZERO cars were flipped over. no windows were broken. and saying that we were swarming vehicles is a great exaggeration. A VEHICLE does not suggest that we were doing it more than once. The press is saying that fire crews and paramedics could not reach the house that they were called to, and since i was there the entire time i can say that NO fire crews were ever present and any idiot with a computer can see that the address in question was well away from the crowd and easily accessible to the one ambulance that was there. Police are making this seem like this was a major thing and from the video it may look the part to some. but being in the crowd you could see that there was no bad intentions until police showed up in full riot gear. when the police threw their 'crowd controlling' substances into the 'rioting' students one officer in riot gear was throwing people on the ground as they were leaving and further came up to the property that we were on and threatened us with jail time if we left the property in front of him. this is a clear disregard for our rights as most of the time this incident took place the crowd was only having fun and chanting 'fanshawe' there were no instances when police tried to come through the crowd as it says in some articles. the crowd never 'advanced' towards police as this article suggests either. some of these commenters are idiots. suggesting that us students should get expelled from our studies as a result of one incident that the police made get out of hand is ridiculous. those people need to stop beleiving everything that is said. as simple as it can be; you werent there, you dont know what really happened! |
| By: enraged rioter on 11/02/2009 |
| I got home friday night from downtown at about 230. The streets were blocked off. I tried to go home then a cop approached me and said "cant let you on the street unless you have an id with a thurman adress on it" i said Im renting and didnt change my adress. he then said to me "I'll make you a deal, you run home and if I catch up to you, you will spend the night somewhere else" we got some real beauty cops |
| By: Geezy on 11/01/2009 |
| It is incredible that these whining, immature and irresponsible students have the nerve to berate the police when they were the ones violating the law. Guess what, you cannot have loud, drunken mobs in the public, there are laws for a reason. As an older Fanshawe student hearing about this episode does not surprise me. A lot of these kids have no respect for anyone, they are a selfish, irresponsible and have attitudes from hell. We used to party big time when we were younger but we did not do so in loud out of control mobs, we did not vandalize the property of others, and we certainly would have never had the nerve to throw beer bottles at police. Grow up! To the whining ball baby students and stop complaining about police, take responsibility and stop being so stupid. You people are not above the law just because you think you are! And if you have to act like total jerks while drinking, go back to drinking Kool-Aid. |
| By: anon on 11/02/2009 |
| A few weeks ago a guy was arrested right in front of my house literally 5 feet away from our front door. I heard the cop say to the kid "Shut the f**k up, you're just lucky we didn't get you in an alley then you'd be really fu**ed up" |
| By: W.W on 11/02/2009 |
| I almost wasn't able to make it home. Every time I'd try and walk home the cops would scream at me and surprisingly they started to swear at me they told me they would f***ing arrest me if they saw me on the f***ing streets again. I had to run home through backyards trying to hop fences and got cut up by a rose bush in the process :( |
| By: cJ on 11/02/2009 |
| You probably are a fanshawe student if you're hating on the police right now. These are kids who have no respect for London or the citizens that live here. Even if it wasn't 500 people, two hundred and fifty is a lot. Throwing beer bottles is a big deal and so is rocking cars that are trying to drive by. This actually frightened me and I'm glad I'm not a parent living in this part of town. The numbers and the specifics aren't what is important. Who cares if they didn't tip over cars? They are sending out a message to London citizens addressing that these college students are obnoxious, out of control, sometimes dangerous as well as disrespectful; you should be aware of this. SD, you're an idiot. "If you know it goes on every year and it's not changing, then I think its time for you to move if you dont like the area you live in". Yeah, there are also gangs and murderers in the city who have no respect for the law, maybe we should just let them do whatever they want too? |
| By: Hates those students on 11/02/2009 |
| Hey Geezy... the cops actually did you a favour there. They gave me a $100 ticket when I first moved to London because I never changed the address on my license either. For TA... You lost me when you said you had four noise violations.. Obviously you are annoying someone on your street if the police are visiting you enough to give you four tickets. They won’t come bug you unless someone has called to complain. It may not seem like much to you, but people have worked their entire lives to put a nice roof over their head, and don't want to deal with loud obnoxious neighbours. Everyone in London is happy to have the students here, as our schools bring a sense a pride to everyone here. The catch is we expect you to treat our city the same way you would treat your own property and to respect your neighbours. |
| By: jeff on 11/02/2009 |
| No wonder people don't take me seriously when I say I am a Fanshawe Student. I'm 28 with my own family but because of students like this setting a reputation for us all, I get pinned as one of "those students." Pretty pathetic considering I am paying my own way, not relying on my parents. Maybe the students should stop partying in the streets and spend more time inside CONSIDERING this happens every time and they cry police brutality. Stop your damn whining and grow up. |
| By: Student on 11/02/2009 |
| sounds like they all had a good time, rock on london . |
| By: Juice on 11/02/2009 |
| i was just there enjoying a couple brews with the boys you know and well yeah things started getting outta hand. Nothing was really that outta line til someone got word cops were coming... at no point did any of the beer bottles thrown land near the police.. yeah they were towards em it was wrong but it wasnt an attempt to hit em cause if they really wanted to they woulda it wasnt a violent crowd it was escalated to this due to the police... i dont understand how you can just be trying to walk back have cops come up to you rough you up when your sober only 3 beers deep your hands out stating your just walking home then when your finally let go your told to run? Or there gonna bring you to leave with them... brutall this was escalated due to police they forced a stand off by making a line at the end of the street of like 30 so you couldnt leave? gimme a break i was there to do work just way too far |
| By: ridiculous on 11/02/2009 |
| Students, you need to understand that it is a priviledge to go to school and live in any community, not just London. You need to respect our local by-laws just like everyone else. You are not above the law just because you are young and renting a place in our city. We understand that you are here to learn and have fun, but you need to understand that with the priviledge of living away from home--and in our city, comes the responsibility of being a good neighbour. This includes obeying the city by-laws for noise and garbage. No one (including students) wants to live in a ghetto--with riots, cops and broken bottles and garbage everywhere. Regardless of whether there were 500 students or 50 students at the party, it's still too many people making too much noise late at night. Perhaps the police were disrespectful to some of the students and said some inappropriate things, but given the circumstances--that they were trying to break up a large group of drunk students who were very likely being rude and disrespectful themselves, I doubt that being polite and considerate was at the top of the cop's priority list. What's with the attitude anyway? If students want to be treated with respect by our police force and by members of the community, they need to show respect for their community and for themselves. Since a few students have difficulty with this concept, I'll simplify it with a few ground rules for what most Londoners would consider being a good neighbour: 1. Playing your music loud at any time of day or night is not considerate, many of the people who live around you have young children who are trying to sleep. If we can hear it outside or in our house, it's too loud! 2. Keg parties may seem like a great idea to you, but unless you own the house you live in and you talk to your neighbours first, please refrain! Go to a bar instead! 3. Be responsible, if you are having a party at your house, talk to your neighbours and give them your cell phone number. Ask them to call you if you are too loud. If they call--it's because you are too loud, so please respect them and turn down your music. 4. Walking around outside with open liquor is unfortunately not allowed in our city--so please don't do it! Oh and throwing empties "towards" anyone or their property is generally considered really stupid 5. Touching/stealing/breaking other people's property--like vehicles, fences, lawn ornaments, gardens and children's play equipment is also considerered unneighbourly, ignorant and disrespectful, so don't do it! 6. Accept responsiblity for your actions--If you or your friends do something stupid to your neighbour's property, own up to it and offer to fix it or pay to have it repaired or replaced. Honesty and integrity go a long way 7. Decorating your lawn with cars, empties, old couches and garbage is not considered attractive, so if your lawn looks like that, please clean it up! Don't wait for someone to complain to the city 8. Making "friendly conversation" with police officers when you are drunk is never a good idea, no matter how smart and polite you think you sound. 9. If you are not being treated with the respect you think you deserve, check your attitude and put yourself in their shoes. No one likes a spoiled brat with a big mouth and a sense of entitlement I realize that some students may not agree with me or take offence to this, but don't forget why you are here--to learn, to build relationships and to become a productive member of society. Don't undervalue your diploma by giving Fanshawe a bad name. Someday when you own your own house, you too will want to live in peace and safety, and enjoy what you've worked hard to obtain. |
| By: Local Resident on 11/02/2009 |
| I remember my college days(sort of). Back in 2001, I lived in Gatewalk which is very close to the Thurman Circle. I remember there was a few incidents similar to this one. The problem is the set up of that area. Theres hundreds and hundreds of young students all moved into these cheaply made townhouses. For many it is their first time leaving the nest and they all go crazy with all the new freedoms and opportunities to drink, do drugs and break stuff. I havent lived in London 5 years, but from the sounds of things, nothing has really changed. I think if you buy a house in that area you should just accept that for 8 months of the year the students run that part of town....If it really bothers you, you can move out. No one is forcing you to live there. I have a diploma from Fanshawe and it really isnt worth anything.....but I did have alot of fun. Long live Funshawe!!!!!! |
| By: GOOWIE on 11/02/2009 |
| Well I was just upstairs listening to my Will Smith CD then I saw all these flames everywhere...party on thurman |
| By: Marshall Mathers on 11/02/2009 |
| I can't believe Fanshawe College can expel students merely based on an arrest. Don't we have due process in this country? How about the presumption of innocence? |
| By: MothyJohn on 11/02/2009 |
| Dont live near college students if you dont want to be bothered by what college students are no doubt going to do, when theres a party, deal with it or move on. This happens in Barrie as well and im sick of stupid residents planning on changing college neighbourhoods cuz it aint going to happen!!! College students will be loud and will be annoying, get used to it. |
| By: Paul on 11/02/2009 |
| I have heard of all these "bad" things that the cops do, including beatings, swearing, and pointless arrests, which many times sickens me. The part I dont understand is people saying the cops were yelling at them when they were trying to go home, then launching tear gas into the crowd...? If people are going home without the tear gas, why not let them? On the other hand, with the many partys I have been to in that section of town, I have had nothing but good dealings. -Cop kindly asking my friends to dump their alchohol on the street for having open alchohol in public, and not do it again. -after a brawl between 2 houses and probally 150 people in the street. Cops knocked on our door after the incident, and first thing that was asked "Is any one hurt, or require medical attention?" -My completely drunk friend from out of town that got lost wandering the streets, and falling over, a police officer kindly directed him back to the house that he was staying at. Thanks London Police, so far personally I have had no bad dealings, only compliments. |
| By: Former Fleming Student on 11/02/2009 |
| Some cops are really cool and some cops are just horrible, corrupt people. If you are ever in a situation where a cop is abusing their authority, try and get it on video tape and put it on youtube! |
| By: GOOWIE on 11/02/2009 |
| Clearly, there are idiots in this world. A lot of people commenting are idiots. I'm a student, landowner, and I can see the perspective of both sides. Students can't demand respect and ask to be left alone if they don't show a little themselves. There's a line that was crossed that night, and its called the LAW. It's not a grey area. A party is all good but it doesn't give you the right to terrorize a neighborhood and completely disrespect your neighbors. Grow up kids. |
| By: Seriously? on 11/02/2009 |
| Watched the video. meh, have seen a hundred times worse but the thing that popped into my head was the cops at the G8 protests in Montreal when the rocks were getting thrown and it turned out that it was the freaking cops (undercover) that were the losers throwing the rocks, trying to incite the crowd so their cop buddies could bust heads...makes you really wonder. |
| By: Will on 11/02/2009 |
| K london is ranked as the number three party city in north america... this party was escalated due to the police blocking ppl in, i cant count the amount of ppl that wanted to leave but werent allowed. Give it up ppl this isnt something new and its getting blown way outta proportion no cars were flipped noone was hit with any beer bottles this was just a party it wasnt like it was wild an crazy i bet if a few police officers woulda come up an said get back inside it woulda been fine but no lets set up a block bring out riot gear an tear gas give it up that was stupid they escalated it an they were not in there duty wasnt it at western like a month ago some student was beat senseless? Some are out there looking out for the community i do have a lot of respect for them, however some abuse the power and should not be there |
| By: believe the hype on 11/02/2009 |
| There's a problem with youth now a days. what i dont understand is how students are disrespectful to their elders, doesn't matter if related or not, how can someone be so rude and misbehaved towards others. Alcohol is no excuse to be rude. yeah its fun to have a drink on special occasions and such but to a certain extent. I know all you fanshawe students are trying to have fun and all. but seriously, why dont you guys find a better place to party and make excessive noise? There are residents with kids whom have been living in that neighbor hood longer then you have, theres a difference when living there for a long period of time, and renting out a place for 8 months. like show some respect. There's residence whom dont want to have there kids grow up to be like you. show a good example and stop being idiots. |
| By: CC on 11/02/2009 |
| When I moved to London over fifteen years ago to raise my family, I had enough foresight to research the demographics of the area. Knowing that the area surrounding the college would be overrun with rambunctious students, I chose to raise my family elsewhere. Fanshawe has grown by leaps and bounds since I have lived here, and it is clear to me that there has been a changing of the gaurd. Unfortunately, I think it is time for certain residents to realize that this is not an ideal area to raise your children. Thankfully, Im glad I did the research. |
| By: Christopher on 11/03/2009 |
| I live on thurman i wasn't at the riot but i was coming home from another party when it was going on, plain and simple these cops have to choose their battles. In this case yeah odvously they had to keep the situation under control. Yes they have a job to do and no I dont have a problem with them doing their job. The problem is the cops have been cracking down so ridiculously hard that your odviously ganna get pissed off students. We literally can't have a group of say 30 people at our house on property we're renting without the cops coming slaping thousands of dollars of tickets on our broke ass's and using some of the most ridiculous language ive heard. What the hell do you expect a bunch of young college students to do sit at home and read a book? Bars are expensive and the taxi fairs in london are ridiculous. We're not ganna be going downtown every weekend, where else would you like us to assemble and have a fun college experience in subdivisions that are primarily family's? No... probly 95% of the people in this subdivision are students, and to the family's, I see where your coming from but what do you honestly expect when your living in a student housing location. This situation i'll admit was out of hand but on regular weekends when people are having parties at their houses where no ones fighting and everyone but smokers are in doors they have to lay off its ridiculous and boarders on taking away our rights which they don't have the right to do. |
| By: curt on 11/03/2009 |
| With 24 colleges in Ontario why is that it seems that Fanshawe and their students hit the news every year with this kind of nonsense. While college officials should not be considered "parents in absence", it is truly their responsibility to address the out of control actions of these students. Yes suspend them ... yes expel them. It is what they deserve. Fanshawe provides a fine opportunity for learning and its reputation is being destroyed by a handful of fools who haven't learned enough to participate within our society. |
| By: Concerned on 11/03/2009 |
| The only reason Fanshawe has a good reputation is BECAUSE of the wild parties. It has nothing to do with the learning environment. It's sad to say, but it is the truth. Students should not be suspended or kicked out of school because of something that happened OUTSIDE of school. Police around here are on a major power trip and maybe if they would stop hounding students ALL of the time there wouldn't be such a problem. Some students only cause trouble because they know that the police are watching and they just want to piss off the police. |
| By: lc on 11/03/2009 |
| As far as i'm concerned with this whole situation, if you weren't there...don't place an opinion. The articles put out make the whole situation look way worse than it actually was. As a student that was there, I can place an opinion because I know what happened. But for all these concerned parents/ older ladies and gentleman? All the police force does is make it sound way worse so they can get your support on how they treat us. They don't have to give warnings for noise complaints anymore, so instead, $215 is what us students have to deal with while trying to also pay for school. A majority of the force can't even give a polite response to "hello, how is your night" from those that intend to abide by the law the whole night. |
| By: Student.. on 11/03/2009 |
| I'm a student at Fanshawe, and this is horrible. Every year something like this happens. This gives all students at Fanshawe a bad name and the ones that were there are in the wrong. It's eaasy enough to party and have a good time without creating a riot. I don't care if everyone is blaming the cops, in the long run the ones that are involved are going to be punished. You think you wold have learned from last year but no they haven't. This will keep happening because students are stupid and don't care what people think of them. Think about your future, because you want to get drunk now and disrepect the cops, your friends and property are only going to destroy your future. Grow up. |
| By: Student on 11/03/2009 |
| i was at a buddies on thurman and live ther myself and saw this and let me just say it was a pretty sad thing to see. I mean the students are whining about cops crackin down on them and parties when its the students that should learn to control thier parties. I mean go party and do ur thing but in a controlled environment. Just cause ur living tjere does not give u any right to swarm the streets and start makin a rukus. U talk about its public property but the students are also violating neighbours on private property. Throwing thier beer bottles and garbage all over the place. If the students kept thier parties inside then this def wouldnt be a problem. Students dont consider that it is still a neighbourhood. it becomes a problem you have someone blaring thier subs at night and students outside screaming and thier noise and crowd getting out of hand. They deserve every fine that is handed to them. What sickens me the most is the amount of beer bottles that are thrown all over the place. I mean have a lil consideration for the other ppl that live there and drive in and out of those streets. And its also rediculous that the police waited about an hour to line up before doing anything. U think ur gunna intimidate the students ??!?!. Guess that answer came from the raining beer bottles. They def shouldve though of better tactics rather than wasting our tax payers money on thier o/t and cleaning their mess in the morn. How bout fine the ones that caused this mess. I still cant beleive there were ONLY 22 arrests made and for the most part most of them didnt partake in the beer throwing. As authority figures the police need to reevaluate thier strategies This is my opinion. Unfortunatly the students have painted thier own pictures and they will continue to get the same treatment from london police unless they clean up thier mess and start considering that it is still a nrighbourhood and control thier own environment |
| By: student on 11/03/2009 |
| The laws are quite clear, you break them, suffer the consequences. I am pretty sure there is something in the Fanshawe policy also about this behaviour. I can understand why the cops are acting this way, they are sick and tired of babysitting a bunch of "adults" when they could be doing something else. It does not matter how much you try to justify your actions for that night, drinking off your property with a 24 hour noise bylaw THROUGHOUT London does not work. Childish immature behaviour and if I was Fanshawe, I would be ashamed to have students like that. |
| By: Student on 11/04/2009 |
| i agree with the comment above. this is childish behaviour. police should not have to babysit these so-called "adults". Anybody caught and arrested should be punished to the fullest extent. Grow up. |
| By: Student on 11/04/2009 |
| this is hillarous I wish i was still in college hahahaha theres always 3 sides to every story thiers, yours, and the truth |
| By: use to on 11/05/2009 |
| I went to both western and fanshawe...Both schools party hard, but somehow western students know how to do it right...something is seriously wrong with the kids that go to fanshawe, and i have no sympathy whatsoever. and yes, they are kids at fanshawe, not adults. a bunch of babies that cry when the police come in to do their job. don't be idiots and nobody will bother you. |
| By: Western and Fanshawe student on 11/06/2009 |
| awesome party, i was there from start to finish |
| By: student on 11/08/2009 |
| I am one of those people who were arrested, and i was expelled from my program. I was at the street assembly for small amount of time then left. I was approaching my house when i was arrested. The LPF struck my several times before i was placed in the vehicle. I was one of those kids who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but for some reason I'm getting the worst possible measures. I too think that the LPF are unreasonable, and highly-professional. Adults, are supposed to act as role models, not the ones who lie to get some innocent kid into trouble. |
| By: Harold on 11/24/2009 |
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